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  Goodbye JWD/JWN (my last post)

  by slimboyfat in

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  after some considerable thought i have decided that i will no longer post on this forum because i want to return to jehovah.

  thank you for all the kindness and many interesting discussions over the years.

  i wish you all well in the future and the decisions you make.

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  never a jw

  B.S.
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  The Animated Story of Job

  by cofty in

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  warning contains some strong language.. ....

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  never a jw

  steve does a wonderful job of showing that he is sovergien over everything.

  Quite the sovereign indeed! Isn't he the same guy wo incites David to number the Israelites and then kills 70,000 innocent people to reward David's obedience (2 Samuel Chapter 24) Better than just sovereign, let's call him a cruel ruthless tyrant.
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  A Manual for Creating Atheists by Peter Boghossian

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a manual for creating atheists offers the first-ever guide not for talking people into faith--but for talking them out of it.

  peter boghossian draws on the tools he has developed and used for more than twenty years as a philosopher and educator to teach how to engage the faithful in conversations that will help them value reason and rationality, cast doubt on their religious beliefs, mistrust their faith, abandon superstition and irrationality, and ultimately embrace reason.

  - amazon.... "boghossian has provided an indispensible chart book for all of us who must navigate the rising sea of magical thinking that is inundating america today.

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  never a jw

  You, sir, and all who think like you, are to be pitied for your arrogance and your foolishness.

  Excuse me... Who is arrogant?
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  Jan 2014 WT study - more vomit

  by EndofMysteries in

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  2. bible

  articles such at "100 years of kingdom rule" in which jehovah has 'in a sense' begun ruling as king, and jesus in a sense was made king.

  even though the kingdom hasn't actually come.

  it's not clear if the 1,000 year reign has began or not, if so only 900 years left of jesus rule?

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  never a jw

  Also worth noting is how the graph in page 15 is plotted inaccurately to make people believe that growth has remained steady. If you do the math, the period between 1980 and 2000 shows an average growth of 193 K publishers per year, while the period between 2000 and 2010 shows a much smaller growth of just 119 k publishers per year. These number when properly plotted should show a marked decline in the slope of the graph. If you look at the Watchtower's graph you hardly can tell there is a change between the two slopes 1980-2000 and 2000-2010. To illustrate, the change in slopes is comparable to slopes changing from 60 deg to 37 deg (or 30 deg to 18.5 deg). Quite a difference!!. Mark Twain was right when he said "There's three types of lies: Lies, damn lies, and the Watchtower statistics". I obviously slightly modified Twain's quote at the end.
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  Jan 2014 WT study - more vomit

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  articles such at "100 years of kingdom rule" in which jehovah has 'in a sense' begun ruling as king, and jesus in a sense was made king.

  even though the kingdom hasn't actually come.

  it's not clear if the 1,000 year reign has began or not, if so only 900 years left of jesus rule?

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  never a jw

  Jeffro

  It's the fifth article in page 31.

  Worth noting is that they are going after the young ones. One whole article was spent for that purpose and the last page was clearly targeting young people to dedicate to the full time service to "Jehovah"
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  Calling all Bilingual Spanish-English speakers on this site for a project!

  by ILoveTTATT in

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  as some of you may know, i am latino.

  there are around 2 million jw's who speak spanish around the world, and i want to reach them with the truth about "the truth" (also known as ttatt).. here's the two main problems with ttatt in spanish:.

  1. i have not seen a site like www.jwfacts.com in spanish at all.... 2. even if there was a site like www.jwfacts.com, 95% of the spanish-speaking jw's won't have access to wt publications earlier than 1970. .

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  I like and support the idea. Count me in.
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  HELP. ELDERS COMING TO TALK WITH THE FAMILY

  by Thoughtless in

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  2. experiences

  so after the annual meeting, on sunday, the elders want to talk with my family.

  i do not like this one bit.

  perhaps i am being exposed.

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  never a jw

  Intestinal illness? not a bad idea. Take a laxative and time it to hit you hard around the time of the elders' visit.
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  Did Jesus really exist?

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
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  i had been wondering over the past few years whether there really was a historical jesus at all, until a few months ago when i read bart ehrman's latest book "did jesus exist?

  " initially i was persuaded by his argument that the nt contains multiple sources that testify to jesus' existence.

  but more recently i have been reading the christ myth position of richard carrier and his responses to ehrman.

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  Raymond Franz,

  The guys you mention don't talk about Jesus, they talk about Christians. Quite a difference. None of them were witnesses of Jesus deeds or sayings. The only people who talk about Jesus are the apostles. The gospel writers wrote at least three decades after his death. Their stories, even though are to some extent copies of each other (Mrk Luke and Matthew), they still have several conflicting accounts. Jesus may have existed, but no way he is "more historical" than Alexander the Great. You are dead wrong on that one.
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  The long road of the VW Bus coming to an end

  by designs in

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  2. current

  i didn't even realize the vw bus was still in production but vw in brazil still produces the iconic bus, production will end in december.. many of us had vw buses, surf wagons et al, i had a 1959 'camper' special we would take on surfing trips to baja california and camp on the beaches down by san quentin.. i took my 'magic bus ride' with four jw buddies just before my arrest over the vietnam draft.

  we rode up the california coast to big sur.

  with the side door open and feet hanging out we traveled the coastal route from los angeles through santa barbara, pismo beach, san simeon, big sur and monterey ending in san francisco where i hopped a flight back to los angeles for my arraignment.. enjoy-.

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  never a jw

  Reading your posts makes me feel young. Thank you guys!
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  Was I too harsh?

  by chrisuk in

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  hello, first let me apologixe for both my spelling and my grammer in advance, both are not my strong points.. i'll keep this short.

  since i've been a child my mother has studied on and off with jw's ( i'm now 34) so i've been around it most of my life, i studied on and off myself for around 10 years.

  thank's to this site and jwfacts i'll never study or step foot inside a kingdom hall again.

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  never a jw

  You have no idea what harsh is until you see my e-mails to two elders in my wife's congregation. You won't see them! That's how harsh they are

  Your letter was firm and respectful. Just the way it should have been.

  Funny that he said he would only discussed Bible based stuff. Isn't the Watchtower literature, according to JW's, bible based. If their literature is bible based and everything that apostates talk about is Watchtower teachings in their litearature, then apostates are talking about only Bible based stuff. Isn't that right??